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I don't really know what to say, I have no words!!! this has never happened to me, words are my life!!!

Ok now the Never Been Kissed shout out is done

seriously people, help me understand this!!!!

I never expected this, there I was happily giggling with hubby about the twilight ribbing and preparing myself for a light hearted episode and then.....

THAT

Seriously I love Sam but I don't get this!! this is something I NEVER expected, no matter what has gone on before, for a while I suspected part Lucifer possession cos right after the smirk there was worry, fear, GENUINE concern right???? that was there right??? but then when Grandpa Campbell gave the other explanation my heart just SANK, there is no way Sam would just sacrifice Dean right? I mean that WOULD NOT HAPPEN, RIGHT??

All ideas welcome cos right now I am just unbearably sad and I want my Sam and Dean back!!! it is so bad I said that at the end of the show and hubby patted my head with a sympathetic look!!! seriously!!!

I am all for character development, but this doesn't feel like development this feels destroying everything I loved about the brothers. I want to trust show but I just.......

See no words :(





apologies to Elvis

Date: 2010-10-23 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-ruth.livejournal.com
He walks like our Sammy,
Talks like our Sammy,
but I got wise -
He's a devil in disguise
Oh, yes he is
Devil in disguise.

Re: apologies to Elvis

Date: 2010-10-23 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
So do you think Lucifer is still in there? cos if so why does he want to wipe out the vamps?

cos Samuel was onto something whoever watched Dean get turned knew about the cure, so he was using Dean (and god Do I hope that's not our Sammy)

The one thing that gives me hope is right after that smirk Sam was TERRIFIED

Re: apologies to Elvis

Date: 2010-10-23 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-ruth.livejournal.com
He may not be Lucifer, but someone else with an agenda - Meg for instance, or someone else.

Re: apologies to Elvis

Date: 2010-10-23 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
Robert is thinking along similar lines, he says whoever it is is aiming high but it can't just be a regular Demon cos Sam did all the holy water stuff when Dean first saw him.

A part of me is kinda going with Michael, no idea why

Date: 2010-10-23 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwenknight.livejournal.com
No way is that Sammy. I've thought Lucifer all along. I don't even see genuine glimpses of concern, I think they're too fake and forced. He wants Dean to think he cares but it just doesn't ring true. Plus, we don't know yet what's up with Samuel, except that he's not really Samuel, so he figures into this as well.

One good thing about last night, though, was that Dean has found his balls and he's onto Sam. And, no matter what, I think Dean's love for his brother will save Sam. Again. While I don't want to see another whole season of Sammy angst, I'd be up for Dean saving the relationship.

Date: 2010-10-24 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
did you not think he looked scared when he realised what had happened as though a switch went off and the real Sammy came through? or do you think that was an act?

Date: 2010-10-24 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cowboyangel.livejournal.com
I have no real theories. I just really hope there's an explanation for this. I don't even think I could accept possesed!Sam or "sold his soul" Sam. I saw no regret or true concern and if Sammy was in there *at all*, there would have been. My hope is that Sam and Samuel are really something else in their likenses and the REAL Sam will be reunited with Dean soon.

Date: 2010-11-02 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
unfortunately this week didnt give me much hope :(
:(
I really dont want to go down the soul route it is such a cop out

Date: 2010-10-24 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-erikah-x.livejournal.com
Really! I didn't see that coming either. I thought Lucifer while I watched, but there are things that still don't make sense. Good thing is, Dean is onto him.

Date: 2010-11-02 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
I thought Michael as I thought that would make an unusual twist but looks like things aren't shaping up that way :(

Date: 2010-10-24 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ras-elased.livejournal.com
I don't even know what to think anymore. I definitely don't think it's Lucifer, if only because that's what everyone's expecting and I just can't see Show being that predictable. So I don't know if something's IN Sam, or if there's something NOT IN Sam, like his body made it to Earth but his soul or his conscience or something is still stuck in Hell. It would explain the emotional detachment, the apparent lack of love and concern for Dean (because we KNOW that shit ain't our Sammy), the downright morally bankrupt way he's been handling all their hunts lately... And he did ask for Cas' help when he first got back, but Cas didn't come. Maybe because he knows the part of Sam that really matters isn't in there? IDK, honestly. I'm just hoping we'll get a few answers next week.

Date: 2010-11-02 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
Your theory seems to becoming more and more plausible as the weeks move on. What did you make of this weeks?

Date: 2010-10-24 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autumn-lilacs.livejournal.com
I don't have a theory as to why Sam is behaving so oddly, but I do have a few thoughts about the smirk.

I think that he did remember Campbell's discussion about the vampire cure and he seems to have faith in Campbell's skills as a hunter, and the veracity of his claims about lore, etc. I think the smirk was one part "Oh hey, if he's one of them he can track the alpha" and one part "Oh hey, I felt like a monster for a good part of my life, let's see how you like it for a little while" knowing that it wouldn't be permanent.

I don't think he's a demon or Lucifer, simply because he's not doing a very good job at keeping his motivations a secret. He repeatedly asked Dean what he remembered about the nest, (why would a demon care about hunting vamps, etc.) and so far everyone has guessed he's not right, including Campbell who didn't even know him before this last year. (In fact, I think I recall Campbell asking Sam what was wrong with him before--about the kidnapped babies). Meg was pretty awesome at keeping her cover the last time she took Sam out for a drive, until she WANTED it to be known.

Sadly, it feels to me like the affection that he has for his brother is the memory of affection, rather than actually feeling it (or much of anything) right now.

Date: 2010-11-02 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
Sadly, it feels to me like the affection that he has for his brother is the memory of affection, rather than actually feeling it (or much of anything) right now.


THIS - makes me sad face :(

Date: 2010-10-25 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nachekana.livejournal.com
Who cares? Evil!Sam is hot. Let's keep Sam evol! I love him that way. If a couple of Deans have to die in the way, whatevz!!

Date: 2010-11-02 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo

that is just MEAN!!!

huggles Dean

pay attention to the ICON woman :P

although Evil Sam IS hot :)

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