SPN Finale

May. 22nd, 2011 10:13 pm
mrstotten: Supernatural: Jo on the floor, covered in blood, her expression clearly conveying THIS IS BULLSHIT. (SPN → are you kidding me with this shit?)
[personal profile] mrstotten
What the Fuck!!!

no seriously, was anyone waiting on someone jumping out and saying

"Hi you're on candid camera"

Up until that the ep had some really good stuff going on. Loved amnesia Sam and the whole double triple secret agent thing, but then that last ten minutes left me with a whole WHAT JUST HAPPENED.

No seriously I need someone to explain it!!! can anyone explain it?

Date: 2011-05-22 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luveskane.livejournal.com
Can't explain a thing, sitting here with the same WTF going through my head lol.

Date: 2011-06-01 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
has it gone yet???? cos I'm still scratching mine!!!

icon <LOVE

Date: 2011-06-02 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luveskane.livejournal.com
Still scratching here too. I keep thinking I should re-watch it but I havent brought myself to actually do so yet..
Aww thanks :) Can't remember where I found it but I do so love Judas ;-)

Date: 2011-05-22 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mindytindywindy.livejournal.com
I can't even explain it cuz I felt like I've been seriously brain ninja-ed. My head still hurts. The show makes me sad now :(

Date: 2011-06-01 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
Yes it is the explaining thing I am lost with, cos have to admit I have loved the last couple of episodes, they have made me SQUEEEE but this just left me going

Huh??

Huggles B/J at least they didn't screw up the last episode of qaf and leave us with an incomprehensible ending that made no sense to the rest of the series....oh wait!!!!

Date: 2011-06-02 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mindytindywindy.livejournal.com
HAHA. Word.

Your Jo icon is pretty much what I looked/felt like watching that last episode. Can't... take... shitty... episodes... any longer... *dies*

Date: 2011-05-23 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] withlightning.livejournal.com
I. Actually loved it. *cringes* I love this badass Cas and all the hurt everywhere (even if it hurts me, too). I'm kind of scared for the next season but also very excited. This was pretty much the only logical way to take Cas without making him fall (again) or keeping him exactly the same as he's been -- he saw a chance, he took it, now he's paying for it and he doesn't even ~see what he's doing. In all his otherworldly glory he's so human and so humanly erroneous and he could never ever be ~pure again for all the things he has done in the name of "greater good". I have so much love for his character, no matter how things will turn out. (Even if I'm kind of mad at him for killing Balthazar. *whimpers*)

Also, Cas was so fucking sexy in the end, before he became totally scary. Good work on Misha's part.
Edited Date: 2011-05-23 06:46 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-05-27 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] choreograph999.livejournal.com
Yes to everything you just said. That is EXACTLY how I felt and still feel.

Date: 2011-06-01 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
Boooo, you are supposed to agree with the journal owner, not the commenter :P

j.k, as I mentioned above I'm really glad some people loved it even if it did leave me feeling Huh?

hugs

Date: 2011-06-02 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] withlightning.livejournal.com
♥♥ THANK YOU. I'm happy ~someone agrees with me. I've been mostly keeping my mouth shut about the whole issue because I don't wish to be stoned. :D

I have so much love for Cas, it's ridiculous. Lol, also, this sums it up (thank you, Tumblr, once again, for putting words to what I can't express!):

Date: 2011-06-02 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
Sweetie I'm a Cas adoree!!! and although didn't get the finale, you will never ever be stoned on my journal. Feel free to come and share the love and the squee and the squee and the SQUEE :P

Date: 2011-06-01 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
Don't be scared to love it honey. That's why I love my journal cos people see everything differently :D and you make some awesomely valid points, leaving Cas where he has been would do nothing for character development, I think I just wanted more time on Sam's wall and less time on where the hell did that curveball come from cos it hurt when it hit me, does that make sense?

Date: 2011-06-02 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] withlightning.livejournal.com
It makes sense, yeah. But I wouldn't be too worried. The episode clearly wasn't about Sam -- it was about Castiel and Raphael and how things finally took form. The part with Sam's wall was even a bit... It wasn't all that ~needed to happen just yet. It just felt like they wrote it that way to give Dean yet another reason to be disappointed in Cas, that Cas would go so far to actually ~hurt Sam (who's everything to Dean) in order to cripple Dean and Bobby and Sam so that they couldn't interfere with his plan.

I'm sure that Sam will play a big role in next season and there will be exploring the ramifications of him remembering Hell -- in the last ep he just collected himself and rushed to "kill" Cas and save Dean and Bobby, whereas Dean coming back from Hell lasted the whole season 4, along introducing Cas and the other angels. And what comes to soulless!Sam, he was such FUN, but it wasn't realle ~dealing with his time in Hell. Now that he remembers it all, I'm sure his character will also evolve during the next season. One doesn't come back from Hell and stay the same, Dean is a good example for that. So, yeah. I wouldn't be too worried. :)

Date: 2011-06-02 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
oooo some awesomely valid points in there honey, especially the fact that at the end of the day Cas hurt SAM!!! SAM!! the one thing normally guaranteed to make Dean want to club you with a big... well GUN :P

Although I was :O huh at the finale I have every faith next season will be awesome :)

it is SHOW!!!!

even if it isn't I'll still be here to squee cos here is where my girls are at :P

Date: 2011-05-23 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nachekana.livejournal.com
"can anyone explain it?"

This season sucked. What more do you need?

Date: 2011-06-01 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
oooo HARSH emily!!!!

I wrote J2 Dark Jared porn, go read it I command you.

Also how is it being home?

Date: 2011-06-02 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nachekana.livejournal.com
Gonna open the fic now and read it tomorrow, when I'm not falling asleep (I think I'm still a bit jet-lagged, I'm never that tired at 12.15AM).

Being home is ok so far. Though I'm not home exactly, I'm still in Paris as I want to meet the friends I have here. They're all popping kids left and right, so I have to run all over the place!

Date: 2011-05-24 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamersdare.livejournal.com
Okay, so, we were texting about this earlier but I'll possibly be more eloquent here away from the evils of text typing...

I loved it. Unashamedly. I've had a concern all season about what the hell they were going to do with Castiel now that Lucifer was back in the box; Cas is just too powerful to be one of the good guys - with him around and jumping to Dean's beck and call, the Winchesters really don't have any challenges to resolve.

His Macbethian descent into madness felt very appropriate to me; his own naivety, his arrogance about his own capabilities and his willingness to listen to the wrong person ultimately prove to be his downfall. Combine that with his existing fragile mental state (remember the S5 episode with the alternate future including human!Cas?) and the sudden influx of the power of a million souls and it's easy to see how his grasp on reality cracks and slides.

Castiel forgot the part where angels don't know how to lead, and he's ended up becoming what he was trying to prevent. I love the whole 'My motives are pure and that is preventing me from seeing how far from pure my actions are becoming' trope; it's a pretty common one for the fallen hero and it's painfully effective (because it rings so true, I think).

Am I making sense to you, hon (regardless of whether you agree or not :D)?

Date: 2011-05-27 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] choreograph999.livejournal.com
Love your comments and yes yes yes. This exactly what I think too.

Date: 2011-05-28 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamersdare.livejournal.com
Thanks. I think we may be in a minority, but I'm happy in my isolation so I can live with that :)

Date: 2011-06-01 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
admit it.... you miss me over there

Date: 2011-06-02 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamersdare.livejournal.com
Nah, I have plenty of other places to be crazy with you in :D

Date: 2011-06-01 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com
total sense.

But you are still wrong and I am still confused :P

ok, no in all seriousness, the descent into madness does make sense, I think what may have caused my confusion is everything just felt RUSHED, like there was no time to take anything in, you know what I mean?

Date: 2011-06-02 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamersdare.livejournal.com
I am never wrong :p

I'm not sure. Do you mean in a sort of "And Cas is evil now the end" kinda way? Because I thought it was a wonderfully slow build up (I started bouncing excitably about possible evil!Cas from at least 6.17 onwards (and possibly earlier; I know it was at least then because it's in my episode reviews for 6.17)). I can see what you mean about the actual end of 6.22 seeming fast, but for me that made sense to leave evil!Cas directly ready for season 7 without starting to explore him as a character in the last bits of season 6.

Or did you mean something different?

Date: 2011-06-02 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamersdare.livejournal.com
Or, oh, the one thing they did rush? Which was the inside Sam's head bit. They could have done that better, I felt (I'd have done it better anyway. Plus, I'd have made hell!Sam look more tormented and less ridiculous :D)

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