mrstotten: Supernatural: Jo on the floor, covered in blood, her expression clearly conveying THIS IS BULLSHIT. (SPN → are you kidding me with this shit?)
mrstotten ([personal profile] mrstotten) wrote2011-05-22 10:13 pm

SPN Finale

What the Fuck!!!

no seriously, was anyone waiting on someone jumping out and saying

"Hi you're on candid camera"

Up until that the ep had some really good stuff going on. Loved amnesia Sam and the whole double triple secret agent thing, but then that last ten minutes left me with a whole WHAT JUST HAPPENED.

No seriously I need someone to explain it!!! can anyone explain it?

[identity profile] dreamersdare.livejournal.com 2011-05-24 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, so, we were texting about this earlier but I'll possibly be more eloquent here away from the evils of text typing...

I loved it. Unashamedly. I've had a concern all season about what the hell they were going to do with Castiel now that Lucifer was back in the box; Cas is just too powerful to be one of the good guys - with him around and jumping to Dean's beck and call, the Winchesters really don't have any challenges to resolve.

His Macbethian descent into madness felt very appropriate to me; his own naivety, his arrogance about his own capabilities and his willingness to listen to the wrong person ultimately prove to be his downfall. Combine that with his existing fragile mental state (remember the S5 episode with the alternate future including human!Cas?) and the sudden influx of the power of a million souls and it's easy to see how his grasp on reality cracks and slides.

Castiel forgot the part where angels don't know how to lead, and he's ended up becoming what he was trying to prevent. I love the whole 'My motives are pure and that is preventing me from seeing how far from pure my actions are becoming' trope; it's a pretty common one for the fallen hero and it's painfully effective (because it rings so true, I think).

Am I making sense to you, hon (regardless of whether you agree or not :D)?

[identity profile] choreograph999.livejournal.com 2011-05-27 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Love your comments and yes yes yes. This exactly what I think too.

[identity profile] dreamersdare.livejournal.com 2011-05-28 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks. I think we may be in a minority, but I'm happy in my isolation so I can live with that :)

[identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com 2011-06-01 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
admit it.... you miss me over there

[identity profile] dreamersdare.livejournal.com 2011-06-02 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, I have plenty of other places to be crazy with you in :D

[identity profile] mrstotten.livejournal.com 2011-06-01 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
total sense.

But you are still wrong and I am still confused :P

ok, no in all seriousness, the descent into madness does make sense, I think what may have caused my confusion is everything just felt RUSHED, like there was no time to take anything in, you know what I mean?

[identity profile] dreamersdare.livejournal.com 2011-06-02 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I am never wrong :p

I'm not sure. Do you mean in a sort of "And Cas is evil now the end" kinda way? Because I thought it was a wonderfully slow build up (I started bouncing excitably about possible evil!Cas from at least 6.17 onwards (and possibly earlier; I know it was at least then because it's in my episode reviews for 6.17)). I can see what you mean about the actual end of 6.22 seeming fast, but for me that made sense to leave evil!Cas directly ready for season 7 without starting to explore him as a character in the last bits of season 6.

Or did you mean something different?

[identity profile] dreamersdare.livejournal.com 2011-06-02 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Or, oh, the one thing they did rush? Which was the inside Sam's head bit. They could have done that better, I felt (I'd have done it better anyway. Plus, I'd have made hell!Sam look more tormented and less ridiculous :D)